Tuesday, January 31, 2017

Design Updates: No More High Times and Wunder Pants Are Becoming Wunder Under Tights


There are going to be some changes to the Wunder Under and High Times line. Some have already hit in today's upload. Here is a summary of the changes:




Note - I've had a couple of comments that the High Times Pants have a 26" inseam but I got the original numbers straight off a spec sheet about the changes.  I measured a pair of my own High Times and they came out at 25.5" so that does seem to support the 26" number and I've updated the chart.









35 comments:

Anonymous said...

I don't know how I feel about the shorter waistband on high rise WUP, right now they're the perfect height. I hope losing the inch doesn't make them cut off at a strange point..

Daria said...

I need to find another athletic pants company

She Who Weaves Words said...

That Wunder Under pant III change will mean us long-legged ladies will quite literally be left out in the cold. I'm 5'10" and I have a 32 inch inseam to begin with. Sigh.

LuluAddict said...

@She Who Weaves Words - lots of tall ladies are being left out in the cold. Lululemon was such a great company for making items that catered to tall women and the rest of us really liked the extra length and now they're like all other athletic companies. I have to think this is purely a cost cutting measure.

Anonymous said...

You may want to check your chart- it says High Times have a 24.5" inseam now, but it's actually 26. Likewise, the Wunder Under Pant inseam is currently 30.5", and the new inseam on the Wunder Under Crops is supposed to be getting significantly shorter (I think 17", not 21").

haynay said...

The loss of inseam marks the end of my time with lululemon. The reason I started buying in the first place was because the pants and sleeves were long enough for me. The cool racerback was my other main purchase because of its length and that's already gone. I can't afford their new prices and I have enough swiftlies and rest less pullovers to last the rest of my life. Now I truly have no more reason to buy from them.

Anonymous said...

One of the things that drove me into Lulu in the first place was the fact I could find running tights on me that weren't crops. Yoga pants that weren't crops. Crops that didn't become shorts (Inspires, Pace Rivals). Now my poor ankles will show on everything and look like I don't know how to buy pants for myself. *sigh*. I'm not a tall person either but have a very long inseam (34") so I can't shop in the Tall sections of places since the rise is off because i'm average height. This sucks actually.

LuluAddict said...

@ anon 6:38 am - I got the numbers from the spec sheet on the changes but they could have listed the HT number in error. I did measure a pair of my WUPs and they came up at around 30". I thought those 17" WUCs were special "half tight" ones. If they go to 17" I'm out. I hate crops that bunch around my knees.

LuluAddict said...

@ anon 6:28 pm - I measured a pair of my own HT which came out to be 25.5". I updated the chart since a few people are saying the inseam is 26".

Anonymous said...

The shortening of inseams across the board makes me think that they may come up with tall versions? I'm guessing that the shorter inseams may be due to a lot of hemming requests. Actually, who knows... could be entirely arbitrary to cut costs.

Anonymous said...

A full 2 inches off the inseam does seem a bit drastic. I'm not overly tall at 5'8" but have a 33" inseam for pants so hoping this doesn't mean the tights will be too short. Currently regular wunder unders are quite long on me but not sure that I can afford to lose a full 2 inches! It does seem strange that they would alienate a potentially large group of people by doing this. Also, I did notice that the inseam on my nulux wunder unders (in iridescent multi) were significantly shorter than my regular wunder unders and were borderline too short. I will have to measure them when I get home to see if they are 28 inches...

CatepillarInTraining said...

well I am basically devastated. I have been feeling annoyed by the shorter lengths on speed tights etc lately anyway but this? What attracted me to lululemon was someone pointing out to me that they had longer pants than normal brands, and as a tall girl it was like everything in the store was made for me. I quickly became frustrated with the sleeve length and inseam on other brands and now it seems lulu is trending that way. I guess even stupid Athleta has tall sizes so I'll have to buy my stuff from them because a 28 in inseam isn't long enough for me. period.

Anonymous said...

Well this is fine with me. I'm 5"3 and was always missing out on cool prints/colors of WUP due to gigantic length:( Hemming is not an option because a. They'll be flaring out at your ankles b. If there's any cool design(aka fading or ombré ) you will loose some of it. I think they shouldn't be making all their WUP of long length , instead just have separate tall version. I also hope they'll make stuff for petites. The sleeve length is crazy long . I had to just deal with it because what can you do. But when you pay that kind of money for a jacket or top you expect it to fit you well

Anonymous said...

According to the chart the WU Hi Rise Tight is supposed to be getting chopped to 28", but the app says it's 30" and it looks decently long on the model. Crossing my fingers that they aren't actually changing this.

I don't get it. I mean, I understand not wanting to appeal only to the especially tall, but a 30" inseam is pretty standard.

Anonymous said...

I'm with you on this. I only buy hi rise pants from lulu because they hit at the perfect spot on me. My pair of nulux dazzle feather tights are slightly lower rise than my other WUPs, and they tend to hit me JUST under the sweet spot. It's not as comfy, slides down a little, and makes a teeny bit of muffin top. Same for my Dottie tribes. As beautiful as these pants are, I just don't reach for them as much because of this. Come on, lulu, stop messing with stuff that isn't broken.

toni lande said...

hello :] super random question, i ordered the beyond boundaries bra online, & it is NWT. I got it today & the tag says it's a size 10, however the price is in Australian & New Zealand dollars. I was just on lulu website & looking at the size chart... so I guess the AU size 10 is equivalent to US size 6, right?

Anonymous said...

Wow, I guess I was wrong. I was curious whether US women were shrinking - no really! And while we are slowly getting taller (and rapidly getting fatter), the average is not as tall as I thought. Per the CDC, the current averages are:

Height (inches): 63.8
Weight (pounds): 166.2
Waist circumference (inches): 37.5

So, if the average woman is really only 5'4", I guess that's why Lulu thinks 28" should be good enough. At 5'9", I'm frustrated, but all I can do is shop eBay.

Anonymous said...

They are going to be available in a tall length. I know they are. The tall lengths won't be sold in store, but readily available online.
The 2 inches will still be long enough for those w longer legs, and just be a tad more appealing to most women who need hems, or those who have just suck up the bunchy-ness that forms in the bottoms! The align pants- at a 7/8 length- was such a hit this winter.

Anonymous said...

I agree. HT tend to slip on me depending on the material.

Anonymous said...

I wish I had your confidence, anon @ 1:59, but I can't remember the last time they made legging type pants in a Tall.

I have two pair of 7/8 pants, but I won't buy more. I bought them despite hating the length and I thought I'd get over it, but I feel like a jerk every time I leave the house. Does anyone remember Steve Urkel? That's how I feel. (http://citythatbreeds.com/2010/07/steve-urkel-the-original-hipster/)

They have every right to make the length whatever they want, but I can't understand why EVERYTHING is going short. There are like 36 variations on WUPs; surely two or three of them could stay long.

Anonymous said...

Here in australia the tags are in canadian sizes. They NEVER differentiate from this (which is why people dont buy from them here - the sizing is ridiculous). ! Aus 10 is a Canadian size 6.

ju said...

They seem to think that their target market wants shorter inseams across the board, which is evident by the vast array of 7/8 length tights on the pants wall. The same thing is happening in other areas, such as women's ready to wear. I still like my full length work pants, but those are becoming less and less prevalent in favor of the ankle length. I prefer WUP to High Times not because I am "tall" (at 5'7" I consider myself average height and don't require tall versions of clothing), but because I prefer a full length tight to a 7/8 length. I never considered the WUP to be for tall women, nor did I consider the High Times to be for shorter women. They are simply different lengths for different looks. I don't believe that lululemon is leaving tall women out, I believe it is trending toward shorter inseams all around, in line with current trends in women's wear.

I do miss the 30" speed tight length. The 28" inseam reduction left me out in the cold. Literally--my ankles are exposed and cold.

Months ago, I faced the fact that lululemon is simply not the company that it used to be. It is no longer unique, and I no longer feel a loyalty toward the brand. Moves like this pants overhaul will not woo me back--Quite the contrary.

GratefulMama said...

I hate the way my aligns and high times fit. They are so weird. Too wide at the....ankle? Where are they supposed to hit? I have to actually hike them up a bit so the bottom isn't loose.

My Dottie Tribe WUPs fit the best. I'm 5'9" and I can pull them over my heal if I want and I love that pant.

Anonymous said...

I'm so happy about this, I was so sick of getting pants hemmed I was only buying high times. Now I can finally buy the full lengths and they'll actually be full lengths

Anonymous said...

As a current educator - The actual height of the pant/waistband isn't changing, they're only moving the seam of the pant to make the waistband "look" and measure shorter than before

Anonymous said...

I've been super annoyed with LLL for the past year or so... they always make their french terry sweat pants with such a short inseam now. If I want my ankles showing, I wouldn't be purchasing winter type pants. Also, they all but abandoned their pants that used to come in tall. When they still had the "good" dance studio pants they never made the fun colors in tall.

This was the main reason I started buying LLL 5 years ago. They made athletic pants long enough for me. I'm fairly short, only 5'4" but I wear a size 4 and have a 32" inseam.

Anonymous said...

Finally the waistband won't come half way up my back. I stopped buying Lulu because the height of the band was annoying and I do not like the seaming on the regular WUP.. or WUT I guess it is now. I love the fold over aspect of their high rise waist bands, but the height seemed to keep creeping higher and higher and all that fabric over the belly is annoying. I hope it's like the Teeki band height - a good inch below my belly button. That's perfectly comfortable.
As far as the length, hopefully they will do a tall version otherwise I feel for everyone. I just hope that they make the ankles a bit slimmer because I can't wear high times for that reason - ankle openings are way too big.

@luluaddict, which pants have the new measurements? The ones that came out in the upload? Thanks for sharing.

Anonymous said...

for those of you worried that changing the waistband on the WUP will change the rise, fear not! the actual rise of the pant will stay the same, it's just the thickness of the band that is changing.

LuluAddict said...

@ anon 4:55 am - Thanks! I assumed that was the case but it's good to have it verified.

Anonymous said...

@ anon 2:56 I have an 'in' and have been told and read that they will be offered in a 'tall' length. Fear not!!

Anonymous said...

@Anon 4:55 Ahhh bummer. I was so excited that the waistband wouldn't be boob-height anymore

Anonymous said...

anon @ 11:06, I don't think so. I checked the new "low rise" WUPs that just came out in midnight navy and the app says they're 30". Of course, sometimes the descriptions aren't accurate, but the app descriptions tend to be much better than the online descriptions.

The ed @ 8:03 said lengths weren't changing, so maybe the info LLA got was still a draft version?

toni lande said...

Oh good to know! Fits perfect, I knew it couldn't be a US size 10.

Blonde 3 said...

Thank you LLA for the heads up -- time to buy long WUPs before they're gone!

Anonymous said...

Do you even pay attention to lululemon share value or earnings reports? This is a publicly traded company, you don't have to "hope" that it "tanks," you can check in for yourself. If you haven't been paying attention, the company's Q3 earnings exceeded expectations and guidance was raised for Q4. Compare this to Under Armour, whose stock price decreased 25% the day they released their Q4 earnings. Say what you will about Lee Holman and the new artistic direction; the numbers speak for themselves.