Tuesday, August 12, 2014

$108 Wunder Under Grooves and Skinny Grooves? WTF!






What the heck is going on with the pricing - $108 for Wunder Under Grooves and Skinny Grooves? Yet other full length pants are $92-98. This makes no sense. I'm hoping it's an error. (Thanks to the reader who brought this to my attention.)

Update - so it seems like this is not an error. A friend informs me these pants are priced at $108 in the stores, too.

46 comments:

Anonymous said...

That's why I didn't buy the pleat to street skirt. It's $68 and the pacesetter is $58. Why the $10 difference??

Anonymous said...

I don't think it's an error - I noticed this pricing in a Toronto store the other day

yogibabe said...

What about the new roll down WUC II in the print at $92.00! :(

Candace Lynn Grubbs said...

I was thinking the same! I want those pattern roll down ones but not $98 want!

Anonymous said...

I noticed that when they were first uploaded. I was interested... until I saw the price. I won't purchase based on principle. I think they are upcharging for prints in bottoms now... *eye roll*

Anonymous said...

Same with the roll down wunder unders - the *print* is $10 more. major eye roll. stop nickel + diming us!

LuluAddict said...

Print fullux WUPs are still $92, though. I guess we should look for a price hike there, too?

Anonymous said...

Its all slowly creeping up, once we get used to buying at the higher prices...they will increase, across the board.
And if they tempt us with the irresistable prints....

LuluAddict said...

I agree. So far, these pants are very resistible.

Anonymous said...

I'm going to partially blame those Wanderlust/ebay idiots. If they see pants going for $400+ on the "black" market maybe they figure people will pay a bit more for limited prints on the legit website.

Anonymous said...

I'd maybe be ok with the price increase IF, that is only an IF, they returned to the quality fabrics and details of the past. Now, these fabrics are so thin and flimsy, it pains me to look through my Lulu wardrobe and see the difference. I'm still hoping some competitor will come along and make me forget this lousy company for good!

Anonymous said...

Too much! But/and I still would like to know what the diff is between skinny grooves and wunder under grooves. Anybody?

Anonymous said...

And I'm fairly certain I paid $82 for my black and inkwell full on luxtreme WUCs within the last six months to a year. Now they are $72. This company is nuts.

Anonymous said...

that price difference definitely makes me walk away. they couldnt justify having better designs without a price increase?
that move seriously made me walk away when previously i wouldve shamelessly bought new crops with only slightly different details than the all the ones i own.
would i be put into debt over $16? no, principle of the matter!

Anonymous said...

Seems like a very bad strategy to raise the prices like that when LLL has been alienating customers right and left. How about you prove to us that you've got your quality under control, put out some good, functional design...then we will talk about increasing prices. Gah. Sometimes I think monkeys are running the company. :(no offense to monkeys)

ashton said...

are the new wup diamond dot black white denim?

LuluAddict said...

@ anon 6:29 am - I agree. It's a joke that one of the $108 pairs are made of diamond dot, which a lot of people are finding sheer.

Alexandra said...

Did anyone else see the lot on eBay with the pair of quiet stripe wunder unders and the pair of wanderlust wander onders... Bet you can't guess the asking price..

Anonymous said...

I know I'm gonna be in the minority, but periodic price increases are to be expected just to maintain quality because of inflation, rising fabric costs, etc. For example I've been super disappointed in jcrew recently: their quality has gone down significantly bc of the poor retail market but their prices are the same bc they don't want to scare customers away. Not that I want to pay more... I just haven't bought much there recently because I don't like the cheaper designs and materials.

LuluAddict said...

@ anon 7:26 am - I did see that listing. A total bargain at $999.99 considering a pair of Wanderlust pants sold for $700 recently on ebay.

Anonymous said...

All pants and crops will have a base price (WUC 72, WUP 82), but $10 will be added for "specialness", so herringbone WUP will be $92 instead. So textures, prints, and high waisted will all have $10 added to the base price. They did it so there is some more consistency in pricing

Anonymous said...

The reason I didn't order the roll down WUC II in the sashico print is precisely the price of $92. The regular WUC in this print is $72. A whopping $20 difference for the "roll down" waist? It's ridiculous! I also cannot stomach a $108 + 10% sales tax on a pair of pants (wunder groove pants) that would not last as long as denim jeans.

I didn't order the diamond print WUP since I'm not sure how it will hold up or whether they're sheer...

Anonymous said...

What a shame about the price increase. The quality of the fabric continues to decline in the Grooves and the Astros. I haven't purchased those pants in quite a while because of that. I've been wearing my older pants that are much better in quality. The company needs to bring the quality back at the same price point instead of raising the price. I didn't want to buy them at the previous price. I certainly won't by them at the higher prices. Increasing price, decreasing quality. True Lullu fans are not idiots. They shouldn't be treated that way. No offense to monkeys LOL.

Anonymous said...

Hey lulu-experts - what is the bra the model is wearing underneath the wrapper top? A new one or an old one coming back?

k said...

Anon 7:31 normally i'd agree with you, price increases do occur naturally over time. but $16 is quite a sudden and sizeable hike. not even considering the dissatisfaction thats out there these days.

LuluAddict said...

Wow, I didn't even notice the roll down WU crops (!) were $92. Ridiculous. I don't know why lulu does price increase in $10 jumps. 10% at a time. That's insane. I think the $100 price point on stretchy pants is a big mental one for people.

Anonymous said...

Lulu's margins have actually been decreasing, so it's not like they're making more money. Inflationary pressures exist in the current economy. Wages have been rising, UPS and Fedex both raised their shipping costs significantly, and factory costs in Asia have been rising too.

As a small business owner myself who recently hiked prices, you do it because you have to and not out of greed. Especially not in such a competitive market as athletic / leisure apparel.

If the price is too high for you, don't buy it. Maybe they'll end up on WMTM.

Anonymous said...

I returned my blue printed WUP because of $108 price tag and the camel toe I had when I put pants on. I am in total agreement on price increase if quality of product remains. Over past few years we all know quality has gone down and does not warrent a 10% to 15% price increase.

One otther comment, why on earth did the Savanah (what ever the name of the wrap that downloaded two weeks ago) sell out in hours. This was the one of two items LLL asked customers what they wanted most to come back and they sell out in hours. And no wraps sent to stores. Yet Strides are all in inventory with additioal colors added. What a bone headed move by LLL!

LuluAddict said...

Maybe they'll look at bringing back manufacturing to North America. That would cut shipping costs and time.

I've read lululemon has very large margins, though. They also could cut by producing fewer designs but more desirable ones. They seem to throw a lot of stuff at the wall but only a few items ever stick.

janine57 said...

I liked the colors/stripes in the pleated skirt but stripe placement? Ok for the very thin which I'm not. I didn't jump because of the price and the sport shorts either which I liked. It's a bit much.

Chezhire71 said...

@Anon August 12, 2014 at 9:21 PM -
I expected the Pleat to Street Skirt (with it's full circle of lovely knife pleats, yay!) to cost more than a standard Pacesetter, Hotty Hot or Pace Rival. It's got a lot more workmanship re: all of those pleats. Same reason why it costs a bundle more to dry clean a knife pleated skirt vs. a standard skirt. I happily snapped up my size in the Striped Bumble Berry & the Black colors. So glad I did, too, as every color is sold out in Sz 4 now.

Anonymous said...

Same here @ Anon 9:21. I stared at the skirt and thought... There's absolutely nothing riveting about this skirt. It's pleated and flat. Blah. Layer it up! I'd love a "tall" version in black/inkwell but only to wear as a more professional option while working at the gym. And the horizontal stripes just don't do it for me. Color be crazy, but I like color!

So I got the Inky Floral PS instead. ;o)

Anonymous said...

Waistbands are covered up... I don't get it? I like roll down but for fit and comfort not for fashion...

Anonymous said...

I think it would be fantastic if they brought manufacturing back to North America. In the higher end segment especially, a lot of people care where the product is made and are willing to pay a premium if it's made in Europe / NA. I don't mean just people who live on those areas, but foreigners too.

You'd be surprised how many Chinese people (and not just the elite) refuse to buy products made in China.

Anonymous said...

The margins are large, but not unusually so.

You typically get larger margins when you sell direct like lululemon does. More risk and cost in setting up your own stores, but more reward if the consumer buys your product. UA wholesales and doesn't sell direct (other than their website), thus their margins are smaller. Fashion companies that have their own mall stores (Kate Spade for example) have similar margins to lululemon.

Anonymous said...

I bought the blue printed WUP last upload and they FINALLY arrived today, Tuesday uploads suck for east coast, and I hated them. They are all ready to be brought to USPS to be returned tomorrow. The material was rough, they pinched my thighs, camel toe and the waist was super tight in my size. They just didn't lay right or feel nice for the money. I was willing to go to 108 if they were perfect, I need winter yoga gear, but these were not perfect.

Anonymous said...

I'm annoyed that prints cost more. Same with the small towel, the print towel is $4 more than the solid. Nevermind that the print is only on one side of the towel!

Anonymous said...

To correct someone's earlier post, WUC in the blue sashiko print are $82 not $72.

Anonymous said...

I'm not sure if I like any of the Inky Floral bottoms, which all appear to have light yellowish stains throughout the pattern. I don't want to look like I've got stains all over my brand new LLL things.

Anonymous said...

The printed pants are a little more pricy because of the stiching on them. lululemon introduced a special edition line that uses Sashiko embroidery, a Japanese form of hand sewing; using simple running stitches.

Anonymous said...

Jeez, I thought I'd think about the pleated skirt. Just went back and darn it, all 4 colors are sold out except for Sz 8 in the white one. Boo! Guess I should've ordered last night. Now I'll have to hope my local store get these in. Ugh.

Anonymous said...

anon@9:21pm

one reason for the price difference btwn the pleat to street skirt and the pace setter is fabric consumption and make, The tiny knife pleats most likely use more fabric and are more complicated to produce.

Anonymous said...

Heads up (maybe I missed it here)...

the speed shorts in the rugged blue diamond are NOT 4 way stretch. In fact, I can't imagine LLL calling them 2 way stretch. It's like last yearspring's speed in pinkilcious very pastel stripe. Not enough give so it feels tight.

Also the bumbleberry speed has a body to waist color match issue (two different fabrics take dye differently). The swift ultra has an ever so slightly yellow cast (a repeating issue in solids). The light luxtreme waistband does not. Same thing with the Antidote speed. It's enough of an issue for me not to buy them. Bummed. Other people probably don't mind.

Anonymous said...

LLA 10:59 AM, agree on both your points. Definitely they need to make less. The produce a lot of ugly, allegedly trendy stuff, or poorer quality items in recent years. Maybe the plan is to keep customers interested by offering a lot of items. I think it works in reverse. Ends up in wmtm because it's not stuff people desire. Even on wmtm a lot of people do not want it.

However, their profits are down so a ridiculous $10 hike on the pants is what they do. Someone's going to pay it. Someone who never knew the other price or just does not care. If people already coin out just below $100, what's another $10? Couple lattes? Few cups of coffee? A lunch? I'm not justifying or supporting it AT ALL (I'm not going to pay $108, even $90 pre-tax is hard swallow) but that's their thought process. The customer will see their way to this price. They did this with the Inspires and Dance Studio Pants. They created that paltry Scuba Stretch and still wanted $108! Apparently some customers paid that price and loved this excuse of a Scuba! And then, then! They had the big Scuba Stretch clearance! Right, because it was crap and few would pay the full price! I know, right? Let me tell you how I really feel!

Anonymous said...

Anon@4:50AM

The only diff. between skinny grooves and wunder under grooves is the leg open, the first one has bigger leg open (12.25") at the bottom (something between regular Groove pants and WUP, I'd say more straight other than flare or tight), the second one still has small/tight leg open
(11") just as the WUP. Both of them has the hip hugging waist band like all the regular Groove pants. I learned all of that from GEC online. :)

Anonymous said...

Don't feel bad if you missed out on the skirt. It doesn't lie smoothly on the sides and just looks blah and boring on. I have a feeling there will be a lot of returns with this one.