|Wren Still Pant I left, Cadet Still Pant II Right, both size 10|
|Cadet Still Pant II left, size 10, and Branch Still Pant I, size 8|
The website says the Still II's fit has been updated so they are snug in the rear and loose in the leg. I thought they fit about the same as older Stills until I wore my Wren last night and realized they've definitely taken a lot of the excess material out of the crotch/hip area, so much so that you probably don't have to size down nearly as much. I've read of people going down two sizes in Still pants to get the desired fit and I think that's now a thing of the past.
I compared the new Cadet Still IIs to my older Wren Stills. Both were size ten. I also have a pair of older Still in Branch in size eight.
The bottom line is that my new size ten Still IIs fit much closer to an older pair of size eight Still pants. Here are some measurements and photos:
|Size 10 Cadet Still IIs on top of size 10 Wren Still Is|
|Close up of Size 10 Cadet Still IIs on top of older size 10 Wren Still Pants.|
|How I measured the rise on the Cadet pair - waistband to bottom row of horizontal stitching|
|Front rise measurement on the older Wren pair|
|Size 8 Branch Still Pant Is on top of new size 10 Cadet Still Pant IIs|
|Size 8 Branch Still Pant I on top of Size 10 Cadet Still Pant IIs|